Warning! You are about to enter highly theoretical zone.
This small article is a result of a late night chat with ChatGPT about theoretical and practical limits of performance achievable using conventional lithography, so consider it a first collaborative effort of myself and AI. Also i will try to extrapolate this topic to Windows 7 environment.
If you’re a user of an old operating system, that doesn’t mean you don’t want to have a good system performance.
Just a quick note to point out an interesting fact of computer history. Amd recently announced it’s server beast CPU [Epyc 9965]
. Built in 3nm lithography, it supports 384 threads, a 12-channel memory controller and has a whopping 500W TDP. Windows 7 256 thread barrier is finally broken. As for an Intel, they are definitely can send their technology to the museum.
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Bring your museum 4.7Mhz XT machine up to the performance of an AT 286 machine. In those days, productivity gains were measured in times, not the measly percentage units that currently are common practice in the marketing world today. Adrian has done a very interesting review of such a rare accelerator. Thanks fly out to him, enjoy!
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¶ INTRO WORDS Numbers, numbers, numbers … i say NUMBERS!!!!
It’s been a while since i ran into the craze of pointless benchmarks. And now I’m back with the absolute procrastination stuff. Are you happy with this?
Take a note that 3DMark 03, 3DMark 05, 3DMark 06, 3DMark Vantage [2007], 3DMark 2011 and 3DMark 2021 are not marked by ▒ sign, showing the fact that these programs lost the soul of demoscene and just providing comparison numbers, nothing else.
I’m quite satisfied with performance of my current workstation. [44-thread Broadwell]
paired with 64Gb of RAM, fast NVME and [24Gb EVGA 3090Ti]
shape solid desktop tool. However i’m planning distant upgrade to achieve maximum speed in Windows 7 environment. Just to mark checkbox that it is possible. In 2021 i already tried out modern platform based [around x570 in conjunction with Ryzen 5950X]
. System worked without any problems, thanks to modern [CanonKong Windows 7 drivers]
.
As you may know X670 chipset is already supported by means of [CanonKong’s driver]
. [Ryzen 7950X]
is confirmed to work with Windows 7. Ryzen 8000 reported to use the same AM5 socket as Ryzen 7000.
CanonKong [confirmed above mentioned statement]
with his own commentary:
I think I will maintain driver pack for modern amd chips until out of my ability.
Ryzen 8000 still can work on Win7. So we can safely announce that Ryzen 8000-series will work without any problems.
Most of you already know how AMD substitute in terms of cores/threads count intel’s pathetic’n’degenerative CPU evolution into revolution. Drastic changes were brought by [Ryzen]
CPUs in consumer market in late 2017. [Threadripper]
and [Epyc]
lines were introduced later on [for workstation and server market respectively].
► [128 core / 256 thread Epyc Bergamo CPU]
It would be nice to see 256 threads in Windows 7 task manager, but i don’t think that it is possible due to lack of drivers.
I think that you already know that you are the reader of very weird blog. So here is another unusual comparison to prove above mentioned statement. Operating system: Windows 7 x64 SP2+ ESU CPUs: Ryzen 9 5950X 16c/32t [Zen 3] and Intel Xeon E5-2696v4 22c/44t [Broadwell] Audio card: ESI Maya 4 EX PCIe Software: Renoise 3.4.2 Settings: ASIO/48Khz/~5ms CPU overload protection: 98%
Benchmark file was created by [Cactoos]
of Renoise community.
Well known Chinese driver modder [Canonkong]
confirmed that [64-cores/128-threads Threadripper 3995WX]
based upon sWRX8 chipset works flawlessly in Windows 7 environment. Considering the news it looks like that more recent [5995WX]
will also work without any issues. So, we have plenty of headroom in terms of system performance. As for me, i have no need to switch to “recent operating systems” like Windows 10/11.
Here is brief [confirmation]
from the WinRaid forum:
As you already know i fed up using [modern Ryzen/Radeon hardware]
and decided to go a bit retro. Cheap Chinese clone mobos and second-hand high-performance cpu’s of previous generations induced me to rebuild my workstation and also fool around with Opteron-based server.
Here is [very detailed spreadsheet comparision]
of almost all available Chinese x79/x89/x99 boards on the market.
UPDATED ON: 2022-08-13
▒ PREFACE WORDS As you remember, my [previous daily driver was Ryzen 9590x 16c/32t]
. After some fun with it I’ve decided to drop it in favor to retro stuff.
Intel Xeon CPU based around Broadwell tech: [E5-2696v4 22c/44t]
became the chip of the choice. It is OEM version of top of the line [Xeon E5-2699v4]
. It is a bit slower, around marginal 3-4%, but costs significantly less than 2699v4.
▒ FPU OPERATIONS COMPARISON Tested with the latest version of AIDA64 v6.60 / Windows 7 x64 ESU.
FPU JULIA FPU SINJULIA FPU MANDEL QUEEN Z-LIB RAY TRACE 32 RAY TRACE 64 AES SHA 3 As you can see blue cpu’s eat dust in terms of FPU performance, but it is worth to note that memory wise we have backwards situation, thanks to shiny new DDR5 memory subsystem, which blue team is already exploiting.
Basic performance comparison. No conclusions - make your own.
Testbed system: Ryzen 9 5950X + Radeon 6900XT OS: Windows 7 SP2+ ESU ENG Benchmark tool: Cinebench R20 [last version to support Windows 7] 5950X STOCK 5950X OC 5950X SINGLE THREAD Imagery by spacedrone808 @Adobe Imagery by spacedrone808 @Freepik
It’s been a while since I’ve published something related to benchmarking. So here we go then: a quick Aida64 post in which you can observe results of little RAM overclock and how it is influence overall computer performance. I’ve come to conclusion that table representation will be more transparent rather than screenshots of the benchmark software.
► HARDWARE CONFIGURATIONS BENCHMARK TOOL: Aida64 v6.33.5700 [2021] MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra [Bios: F34] LOW-END PROFILE: Ryzen 3 3100 4-Core HI-END PROFILE: Ryzen 9 9590X 16-Core
